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Lesson 8 Chinese Learning Strategies with the Experts

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In this Google Hangout with Yangyang and Albert, they will talk about what they've discovered are some of the best strategies for learning Chinese.

You will learn:

Advice for busy self-learners on the most efficient and effective way to learn Chinese.

Tips on understanding notoriously difficult concepts in the Chinese language.

In this Google Hangout with Yangyang and Albert, they will talk about what they've discovered are some of the best strategies for learning Chinese.

You will learn:

Advice for busy self-learners on the most efficient and effective way to learn Chinese.

Tips on understanding notoriously difficult concepts in the Chinese language.

Comments (44)

Two things. First, I whole-heartedly second the suggestion below about Dramafever. The ones that help most with learning Chinese are the Taiwanese dramas because they use simply basic words and speak more slowly. "PS Man" and "Office girls" were great for boosting your everyday conversational Mandarin. I find Chinese dramas have more depth, and "Divorce lawyers" and "Tiger Mom" were both very interesting, albeit a bit harder to understand what's being said.
Ellen Paik 1 year 1 month ago
Second point. I want to add my voice to the confusion below regarding pronunciation of 'r'. Yangyang really emphasizes the "zh" sound of it. But I've asked many many native speakers and none of them agree with that. They all flip the 'r' a lot more subtlely so it does sound like a cross between an American 'r' and a 'y'. I've had people flat out say "No, it does NOT sound like the 's' in 'measure' - who said that??" So I too am a bit uncertain.
Ellen Paik 1 year 1 month ago
I've tried to listen to 'r' and 'r'-words pronounced in online dictionaries. It's all different. Sometimes I do hear hints of 'zh', other times not at all.
Ellen Paik 1 year 1 month ago
Hi Ellen, definitely there's a lot of variations in pronunciation. China is a big country with lots of local dialects! Our suggestions are the English equivalents, so definitely most accurate way would be to pick a dialect and listening to their pronunciations a bunch!
Jenny at Yoyo Chinese 1 year 1 month ago
What do you think about FluentU ?
guido54321 1 year 3 months ago
That's a good question, but we don't have enough experience with it to give you a good answer. It's our goal to bring you the best online Chinese language learning experience, so that keeps us pretty busy. :)
Micah at Yoyo Chinese 1 year 3 months ago
Hi Micah Mij questions was raised as a result of the questions in Lesson 8 Hangout. Several asked for films and TV shows with subtitles. I would suggest that YangYang looks into FluentU because there are many videos on that site that she could refer too to help the YoYo participants. Guido
guido54321 1 year 3 months ago
We'll check it out! Youtube is starting to have a wide selection of options too. You can even search "Chinese movies with English subtitles", "pinyin subtitles", etc. and find some great learning material too! Happy studies!
Micah at Yoyo Chinese 1 year 3 months ago
29:58 when he pronounce ren. Is it acceptable?
indofelix 1 year 5 months ago
The standard pronunciation of "r" has more of the French "j" sound. This is one initial that may sound different sometimes in spoken Chinese, as part of rapid speech, compared to how it sounds when spoken slowly in isolation. The sound may also change a little depending on the vowel that's following it. You have to round your lips when the r is followed by "o" or "u," but not when followed by "a" "e" or "i."
Yoyo Chinese 1 year 5 months ago
I get it! thank you :)
indofelix 1 year 5 months ago
Hi yang yang. Ive to say I'm really confused with the r pronunciation. The are some different when I saw your videos either from beginer video or hangout video or pinyin chart. Some cases you sound like the jjj french but some cases you sound like only using y. Which one is right?
indofelix 1 year 5 months ago
Great Google hangout. Really enjoyed the questions and answers- keep up the good work. Can you recommend an app that I can install on my iPad that I can speak into to test my pronunciation?
Mace238 1 year 7 months ago
Thanks for the nice words. We are glad that you enjoyed it. We are actually in the progress of developing an app for our website. Stay tuned. :)
Yoyo Chinese 1 year 7 months ago
Really enjoyed this. Thanks!
pasharain 1 year 10 months ago
Glad that you enjoyed it. Happy studies! :)
Yoyo Chinese 1 year 10 months ago
I learned a lot of new things and confirmed a lot of things I had figured out in my self study of Chinese. This was an excellent conversation. Thank you for the great lessons!
Hodge 2 years 2 months ago
Another website for subtitled Chinese movies with ENG / HANZI is: http://www.viki.com/
Milenita 2 years 4 months ago
Thanks for sharing, Milenita. :)
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 4 months ago
Thanks guys that was a really good Hang-Out. Just watched it.
Jason Hong 2 years 5 months ago edited
http://www.dramafever.com/ has alot of Chinese movies and dramas with English substitles. http://sugoideas.com/ is a Chinese site with Chinese dramas and variety shows with English substitles. Not everything has subtitles. But many do.
kjmshelley 2 years 6 months ago
Thank you so much for sharing, kjmshelley. That's very helpful. :)
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 6 months ago
...and here is an explanation of how to use Audacity®, a free, open source, cross-platform software for recording and editing sounds for comparing your pronunciation with the pronunciation of a native speaker that you have recorded and put into Audacity®.
Englert 2 years 6 months ago
re. Jacob's question: you should have given him this link: http://chinesehacks.com/resources/waichinese-pronunciation-recording/
Englert 2 years 6 months ago
Thank you so much for the resources. We really appreciate that.
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 6 months ago
I am a 9 year old so I do not know what you mean
Jackson Du 2 years 7 months ago
Which part are you referring to, Jackson?
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 7 months ago
I am a 9 year old so I do not know what you mean
Jackson Du 2 years 7 months ago
I noticed that Albert mentioned a Seasame Street Show in Chinese.. I have been showing my daughter a Chinese version of Seasame Street (zhi ma jie), in order to teach her Chinese.
Brad89 2 years 8 months ago
That's great to hear. :)
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 8 months ago
what do you mean Yangyang cheer
Jackson Du 2 years 8 months ago
Hmm, what's your question? Would you please clarify a bit?
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 8 months ago
How important does accent play in speaking mandarin? I am beginning to feel comfortable speaking mandarin and I work around a lot of native Chinese speakers. My experience is northern Chinese, Beijing, Shen Yang, ect are used to hearing different Chinese accents and the southern Chinese I have met seem to think imitating a Chinese accent makes it sound better. What do you think?
Zhangzhen 2 years 8 months ago
What do you mean by a "Chinese accent"? Do you mean a northern accent? Certainly the way most northerners speak Mandarin is closer to "standard" Chinese (like what you'd hear a national TV newscaster speak) than the way most southerners usually speak Mandarin. But most people in China speak Mandarin with some type of regional accent.
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 8 months ago
I know there are times when one of my Chinese co-workers or students will say something in English and I know they are pronouncing it correctly but the person they are speaking to will not understand them because of accent so I was curious about that in mandarin :)
Zhangzhen 2 years 8 months ago
Some are heavier than others. But generally people with different accents can understand each other as long as they really are speaking Mandarin, i.e., only using vocabulary that's used in Mandarin and generally getting their tones and pronunciations correct.
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 8 months ago
Hello Yangyang, I meant regional accents, I work around many Native Chinese some northerners and several southern natives. One of my southern Chinese friends actually thought my mandarin was pretty good but said I should use more of an accent and I really didn't understand what she meant. She is from a smaller city in Guangxi. That is the only time I have ever heard that coming from a native so I was just curious about that.
Zhangzhen 2 years 8 months ago
哇,洋洋说, 我知道你刚刚从中国回来但是你现在是不是要倒时差呢 外国人说, 我知道你刚刚从中国回来那你是不是需要倒时差呢 对不对
二百我一点儿 2 years 10 months ago
One way to learn perfect pronunciation is to not use a native speaker. The Chinese government has 9 exams and recognizes 9 levels of Mandarin fluency. This is because "Standard Mandarin" is not the "lingua franca" of China and most people will not speak perfect tone Mandarin to you. Those who hang out in BJ have a unreal perception of how bad Mandarin is spoken in China. The only reliable way is to acquire audio sources of recognized perfect tonal Mandarin.
二百我一点儿 2 years 10 months ago
You've made a great point, practicing with a native speaker is definitely helpful though. Thanks for commenting.
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 10 months ago
”差不多” 不是补语,
二百我一点儿 2 years 10 months ago
Where is though reference that you said you would put down here? Or is it elsewhere?
ucjohnsen 2 years 11 months ago
OK, I have bought the book, better be good, JK I love the story about the little girl and the candy. I will remember that every time I say She Be De. Thank You Struggling to learn Chinese Ryan
rweems 2 years 11 months ago
oh my gard you have albert helping you
Jackson Du 2 years 11 months ago
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