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Lesson 18 Pinyin Finals - Part 8

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In this lesson, get ready to finish off your work on pinyin finals by focusing on all the finals that start with the letter 'ü'. The special spelling rules from the previous lesson apply here, so make sure to pay special attention!
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In this lesson, get ready to finish off your work on pinyin finals by focusing on all the finals that start with the letter 'ü'. The special spelling rules from the previous lesson apply here, so make sure to pay special attention!

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We do have similar sounds in English - like halfway through the sound /juː/ in tune (/tjuːn/) if anyone needs another example.
panthablack 1 year 7 months ago
Hello! Is xue2sheng (student) pronounced xue2sheng1 or xue2sheng5 with a neutral tone on "sheng"?
Billy95 1 year 8 months ago
Both are correct. It may be a little more often to be pronounced with a neutral tone.
Yoyo Chinese 1 year 8 months ago
Hi Yang Yang, This is a little unrelated to the video but I was wondering if you have any tips on remembering vocabulary words? I'm using the Anki cards as well as writing all new words down, but I feel like I'm not sure how to approach the information in a way to make sure I retain it. Any suggestions? Thank you.
Whitgreen06 1 year 10 months ago
The Anki card would be a great help, but more importantly is to practice what you've learned in your daily conversation whenever you have a chance. We don't encourage students to learn writing Chinese characters before they've acquired basic conversational skills. We have a character course that will be able to help you in writing Chinese characters when you are ready. :)
Yoyo Chinese 1 year 10 months ago
Hi Yang Yang, Sorry, I meant that I write down all the pinyin in my notebook. I'm not trying to tackle characters just yet. I really meant like if you have any tips or tricks on actually retaining the pinyin. Maybe it's just as simple as just practicing (I haven't studied a language in quite a number of years so I'm a little out of it haha). Any suggestions on practicing pinyin outside of yoyo chinese in daily life in order to retain the vocabulary words would be great. Xièxie.
Whitgreen06 1 year 10 months ago
Yes, just keep practicing. It will get easier over time. You may also spend more time on our video-based pinyin chart. It has all the pinyin sound demonstrations. Hope that helps. :)
Yoyo Chinese 1 year 10 months ago
Very good video! Lstening to the audio I had a little question: at 1:55 into the audio review when round circle is pronounced "yuán quān", although they both end with "uan", the first (yuan) one is pronouced with a clear "a" sound like taught in the lesson video, the second one (quan) sounded more like a "e". Is it an artifact of the tone? Are they both supposed to end with the exact same sound? Thanks a lot!
tobei 1 year 11 months ago
"üan" is one sound where you will hear a little bit of variation from speaker to speaker, and to some extent, even from word to word spoken by the same person. Sometimes you will hear something that sounds more like an "ah" sound to your ear, especially in the "yuan" syllable, but the "üan" final is pronounced more like "üen," not really with an "ah" sound. So even if you might occasionally hear more of an "ah" sound, make sure you always pronounce it more like "üen."
Yoyo Chinese 1 year 11 months ago
Also, if you haven't yet, you might find it helpful to also spend some time with our pinyin chart. You'll find all of the "üan" syllables listed in the third to bottom row.
Yoyo Chinese 1 year 11 months ago
This is so useful, and it's really helping me do better in my Chinese class. 谢谢!
Ben Ling 2 years 3 months ago
Hi Teacher Yang, is it correct if i pronounce "qu" as "chew" in english?
emjane_012 2 years 5 months ago
Not exactly like "chew" in English. You may refer to our Google hangout lesson 1 to learn how to pronounce "qu" correctly. You may also check out our video-based pinyin chart above. Hope that helps. Feel free to let us know if you have any further questions.
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 5 months ago
Hi yangyang, when you explain the Chinese word for "I think", it's jue2 de2 or jue2 de ? The reason I ask this question is I am hearing a neutral tone for "de" but seeing second tone on the video. Please clarify this doubt for me....
vinodh1180 2 years 7 months ago
You are right, de in jue2 de should be in neutral tone, unless the speaker purposely emphasizes on the sound of de, then it may be in 2nd tone.
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 7 months ago
In the audio review, why is the zi sound in jun1 zi3 and qun2 zi different even when the written Chinese character is the same?
camagpie 2 years 7 months ago
You are right, the zi sound should be the same in both jun1 zi and qun2 zi. Would you please check out our Pinyin Chart for the audio/video demonstration. The link is located on our homepage.
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 7 months ago
I've been confusing about the 3rd tone, the low tone. but sometimes i heard it as a " bounce " tone, just like how you pronounced ( nu3rd - female ) . please explain more yang yang, thanks :)
LysaShira 2 years 10 months ago
Yes, you are right. That's what you referred to as a "full third tone". We teach the "half third tone" here at Yoyo Chinese because, in the real world, that's how you actually say the third tone most of the time. For more information about this, please check out our previous comments at https://www.yoyochinese.com/comment/5673#comment-5673, https://www.yoyochinese.com/comment/4268#comment-4268. Hope that helps. Feel free to let us know if you have any further question.
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 10 months ago
I read the comments below and I'm still confused as to what the correct pronunciation of üan is. Yang yang pronounces 'yuan' using the pinyin 'an', and then she pronounces xuǎn using 'en' like in the English word 'went.' Why is there a difference?
busman189 2 years 10 months ago
Don't think of "üan" as containing the "an" final inside it. It's a separate final and stands on its own, and the vowel sound in it is different. It's definitely more like "en" in "went," although depending on how wide you open the back of your mouth, it may come out sounding a little more like "ah". That's what happened in this video. Yangyang opened the back of her mouth a little more when she said "yuan" and a little less when she said "xuan."
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 10 months ago
But a common mistake for beginners is to pronounce "yuan" or "xuan" with a big, wide open mouth as if saying "ah" for the doctor, and that's definitely incorrect. Hope this helps!
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 10 months ago edited
I'm not really sure about 'üan'. Is it pronounced just like ü + an (the normal pinyin 'an') or like ü + 'en' (as in 'lend')? I tend to hear it as the second one. Thank you.
Wo334 3 years 2 days ago
I'm sorry, but it's been 3 days since I asked a question about üan and I'd still like to know how to pronounce it correctly. Can you please help me out? Thank you.
Wo334 2 years 12 months ago
Sorry that we missed your comment. Corey has made a great point. The correct pronunciation is like "ü" immediately followed by the "wen" in the English word "went."
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 12 months ago
This is great! So then it's not really the pinyin an or en, it's more of an English "short-e"+n sound. There's a related answer here: https://www.yoyochinese.com/learn-Chinese/beginner-Chinese-lessons/lesso...
Corey 2 years 12 months ago
Thanks Corey. Hmm...I think the related link may be a mistake.
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 12 months ago
Corey 2 years 12 months ago
That's the one I thought too. Thanks for the correction. :)
Yoyo Chinese 2 years 12 months ago
I'm just another student, but I think I can say with some confidence that the pronunciation of üan varies a bit from speaker to speaker and region to region. In one online dictionary, 元 is pronounced as yü+an and in another it's yü+en. The difference is fairly subtle, I think, and when I've asked several native Chinese about this, I get different responses. So my take is that if you pick yü+an you will be safe, because it's less easily confused with yun.
Corey 2 years 12 months ago
I wish I could delete this :-) Turns out my advice was exactly wrong!
Corey 2 years 10 months ago
Ni hao YangYang and Team, could you please explain the difference regarding the use of "xian" and "jue de". Both mean to think? They are equal to use? xie xie Frank (Germany)
ploencig 3 years 4 months ago
I'm really enjoying the lessons. Hopefully, retention will come as well! One quick observation- the geek is coming out- in the video, the link of "www.learnchinesewithyangyang.com" is posted, but doesn't go anywhere. It looks like the domain expired? Anyway, I'm learning, and trying to get my mouth to form the right sounds, and my brain to remember them. Thanks!!
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马森 1 year 9 months ago edited
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